Out of Control Tour
The Clash go Back to Basics - USA Spring Tour

no known recording

...on the ticket stub on the site it says the gig's presented by "Chum & Chum FM" -- they're both radio stations and are part of the company that owns the music channel here in Canada. the TV station was known to tape gigs (or least parts of them) and also interviewed the band as they rolled into Toronto. it's entirely possible that the channel and/or the radio recorded the show and have it stored somewhere in their archives. i've tried asking before, but they say they can't release that information...

Review of Toronto Show 1984
By Wilder Penfield III


The latest edition ol The Clash gets an A for effort. And last night at the Gardens they made other ratings seem irrelevent. If there was less of a sense of expectation then at the Grandstand summer before last (and at 9,000 this time, less than half the turnout,) this could have something to do with the lack of new music since, and the question mark of three new members.

The question mark can now be eliminaled. Recently enlisted guitarists Nick Sheppard and Vince White have added a touch rockabilly resilience to the band's hard drive. And drummer Peter Howard has helped wind the team as taut as they have ever been.

Or maybe it just seemed that way because singer Joe Strummer once again appeared to have something to prove last night.

Strummer and bassist Paul Simonon are the only holdovers from the original 1976 London line-up. And without recently-departed guitarist Mick Jones, they appear to have rediscovered their focus.

For better or for worse they didn't take the easy way out. No dramatic changes of pace were in evidence. They played everything an old-Clash fan would want to hear, and they did so in ways that should make for new ones.

As a result, these punk pioneers seem to have more going for them now than when they started.

Initially, what Strummer wanted to prove was that he can be as provocative (disagreeable) as ever. "Are there any great groups in this city?" he demanded. And when there didn't seem to be any unanimity in the response (despite the musically and politically acceptable opening-act example of Messenjah) he announced that our PR was bad.

Welcome, Joe, to a city which, like London, is too rich to afford an automatic reaction to that question.

Then, after introducing the bandmembers, he said. "My name is Pierre Trudea, are you ready for war? "

This from band whose authorized introduction addressed to "flat-toppers," "pill-poppers," and other presumably disaffected members of their presumed peer group -- was: "If you want to be out of control, now is the time!"

What redeemed the concert was not their ersatz integrity but their real (-istic) intensity.

Gone were the photos of undernourished third-world children. In their place were a dozen standard-sized color TVs, flickering rhythmically.(Surely they weren't showing videos!) Aside trom that, the show's only bright color, this was your basic white working class rock band, on your basic black industrial set, in your basic black (and white) garb, sponsoring the white side of your basic black-and-white issues.

But their power -- and also my principal objection to it -- is in the blinkers they sport so bravely.

I doubt they accomplished anything new last night, for unfamiliar lyrics were also inaudible, but I think this was the band they wanted to be when they introduced themselves at the Rex Theatre five years ago. Maybe it was enough that we rediscovered their commitment, and can look forward to deciphering the content when they finally release another album.

Any bets they at least don't tell us they want us to dance?


Globe & Mail (Canada) preview

Vince White's view

The Last Crusade
©2005 Chris Knowles

Out of Control T-Shirt
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1984 Photos Unknown

The Clash:
They Want To Spoil The Party So They'll Stay
Bill Holdship, Creem, October 1984
CREEM CONTRIBUTOR Mark Norton and I were talking several days before the Clash "invaded" Detroit, and we began discussing the concept of "armchair activism" and how the Clash probably fit into that category.

Mar 27 Nashville, TN
Venue unknown
Mar 28 Knoxville, TN
Alumni Memorial Gym on the University of Tennessee campus
Mar 30 Orlando, FL
Wdiz and Beach Club, Jai-Alai
Mar 31 Fort Lauderdale, FL
The Sunrise
Apr 3 Atlanta, GA
Fox Theatre
Apr 5 Columbia, SC
The Township
Apr 6 Chapel Hill NC
Carmichael Auditorium, University of North Carolina
Apr 8 Hempstead, Washington DC
GWU Smith Center
Apr 9 Poughkeepsie, NY
Vassar College/Walker Field House
Apr 11 Albany, NY
Palace Theatre, State University of New York at Albany, aka SUNY
Apr 12 Portland, ME
The Expo
Apr 13 Worcester, MA
The Centrum
Apr 14 Long Island, NY
Hofstra University
Apr 15 Canton, NY
St. Lawrence University
Apr 16 New Brunswick, NJ
Rutgers University
Apr 17 Providence, RI
Civic Center
Apr 18 Hanover, NH
The Hopkins Center, Thompson Arena, Dartmouth College
Apr 19? University of Massuchusetts, Dartmouth MA

"First i would like to say the clash made my whole entire life. My parentss owned a restaaurant for 20 years in the 80's we spent moost of our time going to clash concerts in the northeast. I have to share this story for once in my life, The clash was playing one night at u mass dartmouth, my gran worked there and was called to the reheresal site t here was a blood drive and the boys were rehearsing .

me gran was called to step it down a bit , she walked on stage and told mick jones to keep it doen and the had a cuppa with the rest of the band, she being english an all with the boyz as thy were from the same stock. Had. a grand time and it is something i will never forget that me grand told the Clash to be quiet!! buttheyhada cuppa and laughed"

Apr 20 Rider College, Lawrenceville, New Jersey
I remember seeing Clash 2 in the spring of '84 at Rider College in New Jersey. The band was awesome and I hung around afterwards and got everyone's autograph (including Vince) and spoke with Joe briefly. I asked him what was up with Mick and he replied "the hot news is that Topper is out of the band". I told him the new stuff was great and how I was looking forward to a new album and he replied with something to the effect of they were going into the studio after the tour. I remember waiting and waiting for the new album and rushing home with the 'This Is Englad' 12" (along with the 'Bottom Line' 12") and being worried that the production was a bit weird.

Apr 22 The Spectrum, Philadelphia PA, USA
Apr 24 Rochester The War Memorial
Apr 25 The Agora, Hartford CT, USA
Apr 26 Stony Brook University Gym, New York

Hi, great site. I attended the first Pier 84 show, and both the Hofstra University and Stony Brook shows. The 2nd Clash were excellent, I was crushed when that Jose Unidos record came out, it was beyond disappointing. Anyway I hope to write some recollections for you of the shows soon, as they were all amazing in their own way. Thanks, Ed Fingerling"

"I was at the 1984 Stony Brook University show--I was the 14 year old kid sitting on the speakers right off stage" Brian

Vince White describes arriving in New York in his Clash biog, The Last Days of the Clash, page 118

"1984 in Stony Brook. That show sucked big time, they came out (minus mick - this was lawsuit time or something) and then played like 2 or three songs and walked off - they never came back, all my friends were furious, i was like, "yeah mee too, fuck joe strummer," and as we were filing out of the gym we walked past the stage and i was like "oooh joe strummer was drinking out of thissee here solo cup!!" I grabbed it and slugged down the rest of his beer." Julie

"I attended the 1984 Clash show at Stony Brook University and it was nothing like what was described. I remember being thrilled that I would be able to see them in such a small venue. I also remember going to buy tickets and the gathering crowd was very excited to be able to go see The Clash show. The night of the show, the crowd was loud and rowdy. At the time, this college had the reputation of being a liberal hotbed and being very open minded. Unfortunately most of this "liberal" crowd expected Mick Jones and The Clash from Combat Rock and so they were a little let down. Despite all this it was a rocking show as the guitars were cranked up. I can't recall the setlist but they played a wide selection of songs. My friends who were not Clash fans thought that they put on a good show. Joe looked very cool in his mohawk and was quite the showman.The Clash were definitely there for more than 3 songs!" Gene

Just thought I'd mention this: Vince White's recollection is incorrect, the Clash played a full set, not two or three songs. Also, Gene mentions that most of the crowd expected Mick Jones. That may be so, but we knew there were two new guys replacing Mick (we even knew this before the Hofstra University show, roughly two weeks before).

The opening band for both the SUNY Stony Brook and Hofstra University shows was a great band called Paleface (not to be confused with the more recent singer/songwriter Paleface).

I believe they were from NYC. They had really great songs, I can recall some of them to this day, and did a cover of Elvis Presley's "You're So Square." We saw them again at a club on Long Island, then they disappeared. Anyway the Clash were great. In hindsight the Clash Mark II gets slammed, but at the time it was really fresh and new, back-to-basics high-energy Clash.

- Ed Fingerling, Brooklyn NY From: <ed[a]edfingerling.com>

Apr 27 Colgate Uni, Hamilton New York
Apr 28 Buffalo, New York
Hello - I attended the April 28 1984 Clash show in Buffalo NY. It was at State University of New York at Buffalo, in the Alumni Arena on campus. Somewhere around here I have a setlist that I wrote down from memory that night, as well as a newspaper ad for the show, possibly my ticket stub, and a review in the university paper with a photograph. Just checking to see if you can use this sort of info on your site (which is excellent by the way). If so, ill start digging it up to scan for you. Thanks, -karl
Apr 30 Toronto Maple Leaf Gardens, Canada
May 2 Montreal Forum, Canada
I still have mixed feelings about the May 2, 1984 Montreal Clash Mack II gig. Joe had this white suit and Paul wore camouflage trousers. The other guys ? Can't remember, except they looked punk. Pete messed up at least three times, which got Joe very irritated. Maybe it was just a bad day... It was an all-seated floor, but when Joe told the crowd to get up and dance, it was a rush to the stage that made the Forum bouncers very scared ! The cops were called in and one punter stole a police cap and gave it to Joe, it was hilarious ! As for the setlist ? I remember they played In the Pouring Rain and Sex Mad Roar, among others. BtT
May 3 Ottawa Civic Centre
supported by the Wise Guys. tics $12.50
May 4 Physical Auditorium Complex (PAC) University of Waterloo Campus in Waterloo, Ontario
May 5 Detroit Fox Theater
Vince White describes these gigs in his Clash biog, The Last Days of the Clash, page 140
May 6 Detroit Fox Theater
May 8 Hara Arena, Dayton OH
May 9 Veteran’s Memorial Hall, Columbus OH
May 10 East Lansing, Michigan State University
May 11 Cleveland Public Hall
May 14 Mecca Auditorium, Milwaukee WI
May 15 Civic Center, Saint Paul MN
May 16 Civic Center, Des Moines IA
May 17 Aragon Ballroom, Chicago IL
Vince White describes this gig in his Clash biog, The Last Days of the Clash, page 148
May 20 Davenport Masonic Hall, IA
May 21 Kiel Opera House, Saint Louis MO
May 22 Kansas City Starlight Bowl, MO
May 23 Omaha Music Hall,NB
May 25 Denver Red Rocks, CO
May 27 Salt Lake City Exhibition Hall, UT
Vince White describes these next few gigs in his Clash biog, The Last Days of the Clash, page 159
May 29 University of Oregon, Eugene OR
The Last Days of the Clash, page 161
May 30 Paramount Theater, Seattle WA
May 31 Vancouver PNE Coliseum, B.C.
the promoter gave this number: For more information please contact: Eliot Hubbard (212) 975-5051 ...ticket